It has a much smaller diameter than mono and this has a lot of benefits. 2011 Species: Whiting, 5 bearded rockling, dab, codling, flounder, http://s495.photobucket.com/albums/rr314/col175/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Once bitten,twice shy an all that!! Hey guys, Just wanna know what you guys like to use for fishing off the rocks, ive always used 25-30lb mono as i worry that the braid will be easily cut on rocks, also have had problems with line twists around my rig when using braid,when i wind in its tangled around the hook and sinker, this is one of the main reasons ive chosen to always use mono. This is where line diameter comes into play - the diameter is what “catches” water and is the resistance. Will the rest of the crew be mates or strangers? Click here to read about the best spinning reels and here to … Mono is less expensive than braid, but it is also very sensitive to salinity, heat, humidity, and sunlight, making it deteriorate rapidly after a few months of use. Abrasion resistance is very important when fishing over a rocky or snaggy bottom. braid defeats the object of uptiding...you want the line to catch in the tide thus pulling you weight into the seabed putting a lovely bend in your rod tip ....braid will work but mono is better downtiding braid rules cutting through the tide meaning you need a fraction of the weight to hold bottom that mono requires Glad its settled- that's conclusive then . Question for those guys using mono for uptiding. Braided line has a ton of benefits, including increased casting distance, thinner diameter, it’s stronger than mono of the same test, and it allows you to feel every nibble and twitch of your bait or lure. It also means i rarely have to use over 5oz of lead except in the biggest of tide runs. I use both mono and braid,, depends on the set-up for me..Floats or no floats, current or no current,,etc. JavaScript is disabled. Before going into specifics, here are the main obvious differences in braid over mono: Braid has less stretch. Braid can cut through your finger like cheese wire. :doh: how about catching some fish??? Mono may be affordable but it degrades faster than braid. I would think unless a weak link is used, almost certainly cutting it, would be required:whistling. 03-29-2020, 03:57 PM #3. Mono has the better potential to catch the tide and keep the bow in the line, of which of course you need for uptiding or cheaper thick braid. For Your free copy of 'The Bait Pumpers Bible' or for any bait pumping questions, please email Me at the following address (please note my new email address), VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Add to Buddy List. the thought of trying to 'pull for a break' when snagged would put the fear of every god under the sun into me!!! Sinks; Mono is cheaper than braid, yard for yard – although braid might be cheaper in the long run (more about this later). Mono is also far more abrasion resistant. However, here’s one drawback to using braid: it’s complicated to put on a spinning reel. Although diameters vary, 10 lb mono has the same diameter as 30lb braid. For me the advantage is the braid lasts a really long time and lays nice on and off the spool. Mono holds my jig up in the water longer since it doesn’t sink. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy! Being slightly permeable, monofilament will absorb a small amount of water over time, causing the line to slowly sink. Similar problems exist with braid jamming in its own coils when uptiding with braid and a multiplier from the boat. Quote Reply Topic: kingfish tatics, braid or mono Posted: 22 Aug 2007 at 8:02pm. 50lb braid is "standard" for frogging but it will still dig in on a big hookset or if you try to pull out a snag with the rod. Mono is more affordable than braid. :fish::fish: Now now, lets get this right, I think the words DIRTY TRICKS come to mind, firstly the fact that John (Aquabell) could only be bothered to set 1 rod up for himself, was a ploy to leave himself with an excuse "we wasn't fishing as many rods as you 2", the fact we had 3 against 2 in the banter stakes, John-Steve-Alan Vs Myself-John, we was under constant duress from the mono-tones, "don't cut yourself on the piano wire lads", "rusting line" etc etc. Anyone use a pennel? Mono has a lot of give due to it's elasticity. Hi Fella if you are fishing down the side of the boat use nylon cast towards the bow of the boat and feel for the lead hitting bottom then lets loads of line out to form a big bow then put the reel back in gear the tide should put a nice bend in your rods tip if you are fishing off the stern you can use braid just lowwer your bait down and bounce your bait down tide you do this by leaving your reel in free spool and cover the spool with your thumb again once you feel bottom clamp down lift your rod let line out until you feel bottom and repeat until you get a take some times you dont feel the bite its when you lock the spool you feel the extra weight on your line just click the reel into gear and wind in slowly do not pump the fish just keep steady pressure on and it will come towards you shout out Fish-On this should get the skipper ready with the gaff just going back when fishing over the side your rod tip should have a nice bend in the tip should you get a slack-line bite your rod tip will spring back just pick your rod up and wind in fast until you can feel the fish dont strike just wind in slowly keeping pressure on the fish hope this helps you its a great way to catch fish bait wise take squid blacks cart and mussel and razor tightlines Alain, braid defeats the object of uptiding...you want the line to catch in the tide thus pulling you weight into the seabed putting a lovely bend in your rod tip ....braid will work but mono is better, Thanks for the answers fellas , confirmed what i thought mono it is cheers Simon. could be a sticking point if the latter. Braid is thin. Imafisher46. I've checked out the Avet pro 30, and with that reel I'll be able to get 500m of braid and a small top shot on. Sometimes she lets me go fishing:clap3: Definately mono for me. 4 Braid cannot be used efficiently on a multiplier reel, especially for long-range casting. Heavier (bigger diameter) line will not dive as deep. Tarlach. You should change your mono every season whereas braid can last for 3-4 seasons and more. JavaScript is disabled. Mono has the better potential to catch the tide and keep the bow in the line, of which of course you need for uptiding or cheaper thick braid. ... Im trying to cut down on having straight mono and FC line types by using braid as a mainline , then adding the proper leader type based on application (i.e. Anyway, where I'm going with this is I'm thinking about running braid with a similar diameter to 30lb mono (something like 130lb) just to ensure it runs through the guides properly. I much prefer mono for straylining. If you have equal rated braid vs mono (in lbs), the braid will allow the lure to run deeper. We all use braid on my boat for uptiding in the Bristol Channel. Bearing in mind fishing the outside of the breakwater is still uptiding, the results of this exercise always put me off uptiding with braid for cods on my boat .To this day I still use mono for uptiding and braid for downtiding on the boat and will not use it ever from the beach!!. Braid vs Mono for Surf Fishing. I have been using braid for uptiding for some time now, requires lighter leads and the old style soft tip blank. Find Members Posts. tried the braid on a boat out of dungy,uptiding in 140 feet of water.held bottom no problem..could see every little tap and nibble,things you dont see with mono....skipper said he had seen some very big fish lost on braid...and if you get a birds nest ,then it is game over.i have not used braid since. In recent years, uptide rods have become more like modern beach casters with unsuitable (imho) power tips. "Braid's strength is straight up and down," says John Drouet, sales manager for HiLiner (Diamond Fishing Products). The ability to crank and pull logs off the bottom, big pike, or whatever else is something a #30 braid can do, but certainly not a #8 mono. The thinner the braid the more it will dig in. Once you breach that finish, the line is compromised." Braid diameter is much thinner for the comparable breaking strains. Ps, The rod has a new tip, so you can stop feeling guilty now John. In the Bristol Channel we have the second biggest tides in the world & they will put plenty of pressure on braid. think its more a case of diameter mate .35 you wont go wrong for some lines thats 15lb while others it can be as much 20lb hope it helps. Re: Mono or Braid For Crank Baits « Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 11:22:07 AM » Went to flouro and havent looked back.Missouri is one big rock.It handles them really well. My view is that they both work, I like pred-stretched mono .35dia, Tubertini Blue is a good one, use a leader. A fixed-spool reel is the answer in both cases. A forum community dedicated to fishing and boat owners and enthusiasts. Each type of line has specific uses, according to Marty Stone. You can use really strong braid to reduce fish breaking off. A forum community dedicated to fishing and boat owners and enthusiasts. Did the Braidy Bunch complain foul with the broken rod tip eye, cant remember. Do you modify your ringing on the rod to accomodate the fixed spool? I keep several rigs spooled up with both types.. top water / mono) . Today’s anglers use braid for numerous applications — not only for its tensile strength, but because of the way it behaves on the spool, particularly with spinning reels. Mono sinks much better than braid does, which helps if you have a light current in your swim or very wary fish. I use 30lb straight through, no leader required as it's only a lob up tide, and no leader means 1 less knot to give, pick up weed, get stuck on the tip ring when retrieving or the level wind when casting. Braid. Hi All , before someone says look at old posts i have and still not sure what would be best for Bristol channel any channel regulars got an opinion . Many thanks Simon or should i ring skipper ? Braid has much less line friction compared to mono so requires more turns in order to not unravel compared to what is needed with a “mono to mono” connection. This will make you visit the fishing shop more often to get a new line, and in the long run, it is possible to spend more money in mono than you would spend if you bought braid in the first place, which makes the braid the most profitable option. Hi John, excellent read, the banter made up for the lack of fish, Steve cooked those onions to perfection, he should be on Master Chef. Hope this helps. Much bigger diameter than braid for similar breaking strength. Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Quite stiff, especially in … I was experimenting with the new breed of braided lines ,on this particular day i was using an Ultima braid, Lionel was using Ultima Tournament mono. Bronze Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Status: Offline Points: 51 I have heard from so many that braid is the preferred choice when jigging for kingfish which I agree with. 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